The poster under the name "Christulsa" from Angelqueen.org, had the following to say:
Right, Bishop Slattery IS NOT saying the TLM or "old Mass!" That has been misunderstood by some in my Diocese of Tulsa.
In the recent Eastern Oklahoma Catholic, the traditional-minded Bishop (something of a rariety) wrote about saying Mass Ad Orientem. He did not distinguish between the old and new Mass. I would have preferred to finally hear him say something against pro-abortion Obamacare, he showed some fortitude in this article. He said Mass facing the people was a problem since VII because 1. it is a break with "Apostolic Tradition, 2. focuses on the congregation rather than God, and 3. threatens to make a personality out of the celebrant.With all of these considerations in mind, we must pray for the Restoration of all things in Christ in the Diocese of Tulsa.
I am still trying to understand this bishop, who I pray for at each TLM in the SSPX chapel where I attend, but he is a bit of a negative paradox. He actively invites the FSSP and Clear Creek monks into the diocese in the 1990s, frequents Clear Creek monastery, recently starts a "Liturgical Institute" to foster things like Gregorian chant, and has even supported the TLM mov[e]ment on occasion (he said the TLM in Oxford at a big conference there on the TLM). He wrote about Summorum Pontificum in a positive way, and to my knowledge has never tried to stop a priest from saying the old Mass. Fr. Yew of the diocese has said the TLM every Friday evening, and is now assigned to Holy Cross parish in Wagoner to say the traditional Mass for people who live near Clear Creek monastery but are told they need a parish.
But, this bishop is cooperating all the time, at least on a material level, with modernism. At his Masses, he will actively participate in modernist things like wearing New Age vestments, singing along to New Age "hymns," giving very sentimental sermons on the Eucharist with no mention of Transubstantiation or sacrifice. Before becoming a bishop, Slattery ran the Catholic Extension Society out of Chicago, which was and is responsible for funding the building of one sinfully ugly church after another. Each year he engages in false ecumenism, worshipping in ecumenical services with Hindus, Buddhists, as well as Protestants and Orthodox. He has actively and consciously permitted unspeakable sacriledge in his diocese (a convent of Buddhist-chanting nuns comes to mind), which ultimately God will be the judge of!
THAT SAID, Bishop Slattery seems to have gone through some very fundamental changes since he was made bishop in the early 90s, but especially since he brought the Clear Creek monks to Oklahoma, and since Ratzinger became pope. IF ONLY HE WOULD CELEBRATE THE OLD MASS, ie the MASS OF ALL TIMES, at least on occasion!
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Agosto 24, 2009 nang 5:41 PM-
owenswain
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It's good to have you back blogging again. I appreciate your posts.
Thank you, Owen. It's good to be back.
You asked me to let you know when I did more slide show "videos" of the Mass. I've done two - the first from a Low Mass (EF) on Sunday morning, and the second from Sunday evening (OF) celebrated ad orientem.
I know that the bishop has celebrated the TLM at Clear Creek Monastery on several occasions. I can't speak for all the things the Bishop has done, but I know that bishops are in a constant spiritual war and they must pick and choose their battles. Sin is never ok - and love for God and others is what should propel us into action ... I see the bishop doing just that.
just a p.s. the Buddhist-chanting nuns have left the diocese for other monasteries in their congregation. the property is now privately owned and trying to make a go of it with similar activities without a formal director of any sorts....more of a retreat B&B, at this point.
Thank you for the above comment update.
Sounds like a great bishop!
Have you seen the news on Bp Slattery's celebration of the Latin Mass last weekend in DC to commemorate Pope Benedict XVI's election as Pope?
I think you'll see that some of your assumptions above are not quite as accurate as you first stated them in August of 2009.
His Grace IS an "orthodox" and fully Catholic Bishop defending the Faith as delivered unto the Apostles.
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